Whole Numbers & Operations · Grades 3, 4

Times as Many: Comparison and Multi-Step Word Problems

Quick answer

A times-as-many comparison multiplies. Five times as many as 7 is 35. A more-than comparison adds, so 5 more than 7 is 12 — the same two numbers and a different question. Multi-step problems are handled the same way: write down what each step gives before moving on, so nothing has to be held in your head.

What you'll learn

  • Read a times-as-many statement as a multiplication
  • Tell a multiplying comparison from an adding one
  • Solve a multi-step word problem one step at a time

Times as many means multiply

35=5×735 = 5 \times 7

That can be read as a comparison:

  • 3535 is five times as many as 77
  • 3535 is seven times as many as 55

Both are true. The equation holds two comparisons at once, one for each factor.

Why “times as many” is not “more than”

These two phrases sound similar and do opposite things.

PhraseOperationWith 77 and 55
55 more than 77add1212
55 times as many as 77multiply3535

Same two numbers. Answers that are nowhere near each other.

Look for the word “times”. It is the signal to multiply. Without it, phrases like more than, fewer than and increased by all mean adding or subtracting.

Finding how many times as many

Multiplication going one way means division coming back.

Ben has 66 marbles. Amy has 4242. How many times as many does Amy have?

42÷6=742 \div 6 = 7

Seven times as many.

This is the missing factor again: ?×6=42? \times 6 = 42.

QuestionOperation
How many is 55 times as many as 88?5×85 \times 8
4040 is how many times as many as 88?40÷840 \div 8
4040 is 55 times as many as what?40÷540 \div 5

Two-step problems

Most real problems need more than one step. The method is to finish one step and write the answer down before starting the next.

A store has 44 boxes with 66 pens in each. It sells 99 pens. How many are left?

Step 1 — how many pens to start:

4×6=244 \times 6 = 24

Step 2 — how many after selling:

24−9=1524 - 9 = 15

Fifteen pens left.

Writing the 2424 down is the whole technique. Trying to hold it in your head while doing the next step is where most errors in these problems come from.

Writing it as one equation

The two steps can be joined into one statement, with a letter for the answer:

p=(4×6)−9p = (4 \times 6) - 9

The parentheses keep the multiplication first, which the order of operations would do anyway — but writing them makes the intended order visible to a reader.

Checking the answer makes sense

An answer to a word problem describes something real, so it can be checked against the situation.

Warning signWhat it usually means
bigger than the totaladded where you should have taken away
a negative amountsubtracted the wrong way round
not a whole number of objectsmultiplied or divided the wrong pair
far larger than expectedmultiplied where you should have added

In the pen problem, 1515 is less than the 2424 started with, which is right for a shop that sold some. An answer of 3333 would mean the store gained pens by selling them.

This check costs one sentence and catches the errors that matter.

Worked examples

Common mistakes

Practice problems

  1. What is 44 times as many as 66?

    Answer

    2424

    Full solution

    “Times as many” multiplies: 4×6=244 \times 6 = 24.

  2. What is 44 more than 66?

    Answer

    1010

    Full solution

    “More than” adds.

  3. 3030 is how many times as many as 55?

    Answer

    66

    Full solution

    30÷5=630 \div 5 = 6.

  4. A book costs 77 dollars. A game costs 55 times as much. What does the game cost?

    Answer

    3535 dollars

    Full solution

    5×7=355 \times 7 = 35.

  5. There are 33 bags with 99 apples each. How many apples?

    Answer

    2727

    Full solution

    3×9=273 \times 9 = 27.

  6. From those 2727 apples, 88 are eaten. How many are left?

    Answer

    1919

    Full solution

    27−8=1927 - 8 = 19.

  7. A tree is 44 m tall. Another is 33 times as tall. How tall is the second?

    Answer

    1212 m

    Full solution

    3×4=123 \times 4 = 12.

  8. There are 66 rows of 77 chairs. 1010 chairs are taken away. How many are left?

    Hint

    Two steps. Write down the first answer.

    Answer

    3232

    Full solution

    6×7=426 \times 7 = 42 chairs to start.

    42−10=3242 - 10 = 32 left.

  9. A pencil costs 22 dollars. A pen costs 88. How many times as much is the pen?

    Answer

    44 times

    Full solution

    8÷2=48 \div 2 = 4.

  10. A store has 55 boxes of 88 pens and sells 1212. Asked how many are left, Tom answers 5252. Find his error.

    Hint

    Should the store have more pens or fewer after selling?

    Answer

    He added instead of subtracting. The answer is 2828.

    Full solution

    His first step is right: 5×8=405 \times 8 = 40 pens to start.

    His second step added the 1212 instead of taking it away: 40+12=5240 + 12 = 52.

    Selling pens means having fewer, so the second step subtracts: 40−12=2840 - 12 = 28.

    The check catches this without redoing any arithmetic. An answer of 5252 is more than the 4040 the store started with, and a store cannot gain pens by selling them.

Frequently asked questions

What does times as many mean?

Multiply. Five times as many as 7 is 5 × 7 = 35.

How is that different from more than?

More than adds. 5 more than 7 is 12, while 5 times as many as 7 is 35. Same numbers, very different answers.

How do I find how many times as many?

Divide. If one is 35 and the other is 7, then 35 ÷ 7 = 5, so it is 5 times as many.

How do I handle a two-step problem?

Do one step, write down the answer, then start the next. Trying to hold a middle number in your head is where most errors come from.

How do I check a word problem answer?

Ask whether it makes sense. An answer bigger than the total, or a number of people that is not whole, means something went wrong.

What to learn next

Standards alignment

This lesson covers the following Common Core State Standards for Mathematics.

  • CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.4.OA.A.1Operations and Algebraic ThinkingInterpret a multiplication equation as a comparison, e.g., interpret 35 = 5 × 7 as a statement that 35 is 5 times as many as 7 and 7 times as many as 5. Represent verbal statements of multiplicative comparisons as multiplication equations.
  • CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.4.OA.A.2Operations and Algebraic ThinkingMultiply or divide to solve word problems involving multiplicative comparison, e.g., by using drawings and equations with a symbol for the unknown number to represent the problem, distinguishing multiplicative comparison from additive comparison.
  • CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.4.OA.A.3Operations and Algebraic ThinkingSolve multistep word problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers using the four operations, including problems in which remainders must be interpreted. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding.
  • CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.3.OA.D.8Operations and Algebraic ThinkingSolve two-step word problems using the four operations. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding.